Stern rips players, remains pessimistic after negotiating session

NBA commissioner David Stern didn’t come away with much hope after Monday’s negotiating sessions between players and owners.

Stern didn’t take the high road after the first session, as players union president Derek Fisher did. Instead, the NBA  commissioner blasted his players after telling the Associated Press that “nothing” in a nearly three-hour meeting .

“I don’t feel optimistic about the players’ willingness to engage in a serious way,” Stern said.

It’s no surprise that the players are entrenched on their position. It is still very early in the negotiations and we’re still a long way from missing any games.

The owners want a much larger piece of the “basketball related income” pie, a hard salary cap and shorter contracts that aren’t guaranteed.

The players aren’t willing to budge much on what they have now. It looks like both sides remain are adamant.

Stern told CBS Sports.com that the , which limits any real negotiating in his opinion.     

“I think it’s fair to say that we’re in the same place as we were 30 days ago,” Stern said. “And we agreed we’d be in touch to schedule some additional meetings … But right now, we haven’t seen any movement.”

Spurs majority owner Peter Holt was one of two NBA owners who were present Monday in New York City for the negotiating session. Holt was joined by Minnesota’s Glen Taylor among other NBA owners.

We likely won’t see any more constructive negotiating for the next several weeks. The next milestone will be when the players receive a ruling on their complaint with the National Labor Relations Board in the next 30 to 60 days on whether the owners are negotiating in good faith or not.

If the board agrees with the players, they can go the courts to end the lockout giving them a huge boost in negotiating leverage.

But if not, it should be a long, long wait. 

Don’t look for much in the next several weeks — except for the occasional NBA player signing a contract with an overseas team.  

Is ‘Big Shot Bob’ really one of the 10 most overrated players in NBA history?

Robert Horry’s accomplishments in basketball should be clear any time he visits his safe deposit box.

When Horry gazes at his seven championship rings — two from Houston, three from the Los Angeles Lakers and two from the Spurs — his value as a key player on those NBA title teams should be indisputable.

Apparently, however, Horry isn’t to the bloggers over at the Bleacher Report.

Horry is ranked y in a fancy video production.

“Seven titles and clutch playoff shots make you accomplished,” the Bleacher Report video presentation said. “But let’s not put Horry on too much of a pedestal. He played with Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe and Duncan. He had help.”

Some of  their rationalization about Horry is true, but Horry never was presumed to be the best player on any of his championship teams. Instead, he was one of the most valuable role players in NBA history. He provided clutch shooting, defense, rebounding and passing to all of those championship teams. It’s no coincidence that he has as many championship rings as he does.

Instead of calling him one of the NBA’s most overrated players, I think a better case can be made for a spot in the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame one day. Horry’s unique talents and championship-caliber play makes him a better fit in the Hall than on the NBA’s overrated list.

For debate, here are the Bleacher Report’s top 10 most overrated players in history. Some of the players deserve their rankings.

Horry, however, doesn’t.

1. LeBron James.

2. Carmelo Anthony

3. Amar’e Stoudemire  

4. Anfernee “Penny” Hardaway

5. Steve Francis

6. Stephon Marbury

7. Derek Fisher 

8. Robert Horry

9. Patrick Ewing

10. Bill Laimbeer  

How about it Spurs Nation? Do you agree with the list?

Who would you add to it? And which players merit their inclusion?

‘The Matrix’ nixes chance to appear on ‘Dancing with the Stars’

Shawn Marion is convinced the NBA lockout will be settled sooner than later.

TMZ.com reports that the Dallas forward’s confidence that the work stoppage will end soon was one of the major reasons that he turned down an opportunity to appear on next season’s “Dancing with the Stars” on ABC-TV.

Show officials sent Marion an official offer to appear in the 13th compeitition of the popular reality show, butlater this fall.

“Dancing with the Stars” would end in November and the NBA season usually begins in October with training camp starting several weeks later.

So it’s probably a wise decision.

Marion won’t be following in the footsteps of his owner, Mark Cuban, who was eliminated fifth in the autumn of 2007.

Other NBA-affiliated “Dancing with the Stars” participants have included Clyde Drexler (eliminated fourth, spring 2007) and Rick Fox (eliminated seventh, fall 2010).

Only one active athlete in a major North American team sport has participated in the show. Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward won the most recent “Dancing” competition that was settled earlier this year.