NBA talks stretching out into long discussion

The critical NBA labor talks have just passed their seventh hour as both sides appear adamant about at least trying to keep talking in their hopes of brokering a deal that would end the 109-day lockout.

The well-connected Ken Berger of CBS Sports.com, always a must read on all labor-related matters, reports in a tweet that his sources have told him to .

The New York Post’s Marc Berman notes that federal mediator George Cohen as the talks extend into the evening.

It might be a blow to taxpayers, but  the fact that both sides are continuing to talk indicates that there could be a chance at movement today.

Stern rips players, remains pessimistic after negotiating session

NBA commissioner David Stern didn’t come away with much hope after Monday’s negotiating sessions between players and owners.

Stern didn’t take the high road after the first session, as players union president Derek Fisher did. Instead, the NBA  commissioner blasted his players after telling the Associated Press that “nothing” in a nearly three-hour meeting .

“I don’t feel optimistic about the players’ willingness to engage in a serious way,” Stern said.

It’s no surprise that the players are entrenched on their position. It is still very early in the negotiations and we’re still a long way from missing any games.

The owners want a much larger piece of the “basketball related income” pie, a hard salary cap and shorter contracts that aren’t guaranteed.

The players aren’t willing to budge much on what they have now. It looks like both sides remain are adamant.

Stern told CBS Sports.com that the , which limits any real negotiating in his opinion.     

“I think it’s fair to say that we’re in the same place as we were 30 days ago,” Stern said. “And we agreed we’d be in touch to schedule some additional meetings … But right now, we haven’t seen any movement.”

Spurs majority owner Peter Holt was one of two NBA owners who were present Monday in New York City for the negotiating session. Holt was joined by Minnesota’s Glen Taylor among other NBA owners.

We likely won’t see any more constructive negotiating for the next several weeks. The next milestone will be when the players receive a ruling on their complaint with the National Labor Relations Board in the next 30 to 60 days on whether the owners are negotiating in good faith or not.

If the board agrees with the players, they can go the courts to end the lockout giving them a huge boost in negotiating leverage.

But if not, it should be a long, long wait. 

Don’t look for much in the next several weeks — except for the occasional NBA player signing a contract with an overseas team.  

NBPA ready to file motion to dismiss NBA’s lawsuit

The NBA Players Association are ready with their reponse to the NBA’s federal lawsuit filed  earlier this week.

CBS Sports.com reports that the players and will likely do so in the next week to 10 days.

The NBPA’s response is hardly unexpected  as they try to prove in court that the NBA’s lockout is illegal.

NBPA attorney Jeffrey Kessler told CBS Sports.com that the NBA’s lawsuit ”has no merit” and will use it as evidence of the league’s bad-faith bargaining in a separate charge pending before the National Labor Relations Board.

The most prominent agents are placing incredible pressure on NBPA executive director Billy Hunter to decertify the union and file an antitrust lawsuit against the league.

It adds another obstacle in settling the NLRB case, which is still likely 30-60 days from being settled.

Maybe Hunter factored the additional legal manuevering when he because of the lockout earlier this week.

Because it appears we have moved much farther away from a settlement over the past several days.