Memory 21: Ice swapped to Chicago for David Greenwood

Date: Thursday Oct. 25, 1985

Even the legends can be traded.

But it didn’t make it any easier for Spurs Nation to accept when George Gervin, one of the most iconic players in team history, was swapped to the Chicago Bulls for journeyman power forward David Greenwood.

Gervin became expendable late in his career when his defensive liabilities were exposed along with erodihng offensive skills. He had scored a career-low 21.2 points per game for the Spurs in the 1984-85 season. 

“Nobody is ever going to wear No. 44 (Gervin’s number) with this franchise again,” Spurs’ general manager Bob Bass told the Chicago Tribune. “If I’m a fan, you don’t want to see him leave because he has done so many unbelievable things on the basketball floor.

“We’re not talking about a regular guy, we’re talking about a Hall of Famer. After playing here 12 years, he has the hearts and minds of everyone in San Antonio.”

Spurs owner Angelo Drossos had feuded with Gervin in the weeks leading up to the trade. Even after that, Drossos said it was still difficult to trade Gervin because of his legacy with the team.

“We might not be in the NBA and San Antonio might not have a basketball team right now if it weren’t for George Gervin,” Drossos told the Tribune.

But as bizarre as the notion of trading Gervin might have sounded, he never really clicked with Cotton Fitzsimmons after he was hired in 1984. Their feud continued to simmer during Fitzsimmons’ first season with the team. 

During his second training camp with Fitzsimmons, Gervin openly pushed for a trade. He did not appear for a practice or a workout for a couple of days before the trade was announced, making his intentions seem clear.

“The team cannot and will not tolerate this,” Drossos told the Express-News. “I am very unhappy and upset with Gervin. We will do something about it. People cannot just come to practice when they feel like it.”

Gervin never really connected with Fitzsimmons. His antipathy could be seen with the way he mouthed “I love Cotton Ball,” during a series of commercials for the team before the season.

In preseason camp, Gervin, then  33, had fallen behind starters Alvin Robertson and Wes Matthews in the Spurs’ starting lineup and couldn’t be guaranteed playing time. Fitzsimmons hoped to replace Gervin in the rotation with No. 1 draft pick Alfrederick Hughes.

“It was a difficult decision, but we had to make it sooner or later,” Drossos said. “We’re not happy with making the deal. Gervin has helped make the franchise what it is today.”

The trade enabled Gervin to rejoin Stan Albeck, who was in his first season coaching the Bulls. Albeck coached the Spurs for three seasons before he left in 1983 to become the New Jersey Nets’ coach.

The trade didn’t come off easily. Gervin’s agent Pat Healy didn’t let either team slide on incentives he felt his client deserved.

And the Spurs were a little bit leery about Greenwood, 28, who underwent surgery on both heels to treat tendinitis before the season started.

Greenwood never fulfilled the promise after he was the second player selected in the 1979 draft after Magic Johnson. He averaged 6.1 points per game the previous season with Chicago before his arrival with the Spurs.    

The trade was intriguing for Chicago after Quintin Dailey went into drug rehabilitation, providing an opening for Gervin to fill his place in the rotation.

“Teamed with Michael Jordan in the backcourt, we are going to be a hard act to follow,” Chicago general manager Jerry Krause told the Associated  Press.

But Jordan wasn’t excited about the trade, remembering an  incident with Gervin from the previous season, according to the Chicago Tribune.

His problems with Gervin stemmed from the previous season’s All-Star game when Gervin and several other top players in the league allegedly were involved in an incident to make Jordan look bad during his rookie season.

There were some reports that several members of the Eastern Conference All-Star team plotted to keep Jordan – an All-Star starter – out of the offense to teach him some humility. Also, several of Jordan’s teammates reportedly plotted to leave him  along when he guarded Gervin as they refused to help him on defense. 

“I have no comment on the trade,” Jordan told the Tribune. “Just say I am unhappy.”

The trade provided Gervin with a fresh start. And in order to help expedite the trade, the Bulls agreed to pick up the year remaining on Gervin’s $750,000-a-year contract, which also carried incentives up to $300,000. Greenwood would get a guaranteed $500,000 for two years.

“I’ve got a new job, a new owner, new people to deal with,” Gervin told the Tribune. “If you’re a good person, you can deal with all of that. I’ll still be living in San Antonio in the offseason. You can get me a new job, but you can’t get rid of me.

“I have no animosity towards the Spurs. They handled it the best way they knew how.”

They said it, part I: “The first wave of heat hit Thursday morning and there  will be more, much more – enough to melt the buckle off Angelo Drossos’ belt. It could be the hottest winter Bob Bass will ever see and Cotton Fitzsimmons, the coach who couldn’t get along with George Gervin, will catch more than his share of warmth from the furnace the fans will create,” Express-News columnist Dan Cook’s reaction to the Gervin trade. 

They said it, part II: “It was a difficult decision but a decision we had to make sooner or later. We decided to make it now. We’re not happy with making the deal. He’s helped make the franchise what it is,” Drossos on the trade.

They said it, part III: “I’m not ready to retire. That’s out of the question,” Gervin to the San Antonio Light about the trade.

 They said it, part IV: “I really wanted to finish my career in San Antono, but I found out that wishin’ doesn’t help. Maybe I should have prayed.” Gervin, to the Express-News  on the trade. 

They said it, part  V: “George did not initiate the trade. His choice was to continue to remain with the Spurs, retire in San Antonio and stay there for the rest of his life. But George has no choice. They said ‘George, you go,’ period.” Healy, on the trade.

They said it, part VI: ”Unfortunately, this is not the way I visualized it when I took this job. What  I saw in the future was George Gervin making a finger roll over Robert Parish of the Boston Celtics to win the NBA title. Then he would make a decision to retire to his home in San Antonio. He may be the greatest shooter to ever play the game. I don’t know of anyone who has a better touch with the basketball than Ice,” Fitzsimmons  on trading Gervin.

They said it, part VII: “There comes a time for change even though they’re not popular,” Drossos on the trade.

They said it, part VIII: “As I get into my black Porsche and drive into the darkness, will I be coming back? I don’t really know,” Gervin, as negotiations continued to percolate before the trade was announced.

UPSHOT: At the time of the trade, Gervin was the leading scorer in Spurs history and ranked ninth among NBA players with a 27.3 career scoring average.  Gervin had played in seven NBA All-Star games with the Spurs and set the NBA record for the most points scored in a quarter, established in 1978 when he scored 33 against New Orleans … Gervin scored four points in his first game with the Bulls, but never really found his way into Albeck’s rotation there as he averaged 16.2 points per game for Chicago in his final season in the league. After that season he left the NBA to play for a year in Italy before retiring from basketball. Greenwood averaged 7.9 points and 7.8 rebounds per game in his first season with the Spurs, remaining with the team for 3 ½ years. He was traded to Denver in 1989 with Darwin Cook for Calvin Natt and Jay Vincent in 1989. Gervin’s jersey was retired by the team on Dec. 5, 1987. He was enshrined in the Basketball Hall of Fame on May 6, 1996.

Previous Spurs most memorable moments:

No. 22: Spurswith bubbly.

No. 23: Horry-Nash , may have sparked title run.

No. 24: Ice’s clandestine arrival .

No. 25: Barkleywith series-clinching shot.

No. 26: Silas becomes first Spur.

No. 27: Robinson makes history with .

No. 28: after crucial 1999 victory at Houston.

No. 29: on Halloween night.

No. 30: Torrid San Diego shooting

TP, TD work out with Spurs rookies

While the fate of the season hangs in the balance at negotiating sessions in New York, Tim Duncan and Tony Parker are taking their elder status with the Spurs rather seriously.

Duncan and Parker aren’t wearing their suits arguing with David Stern, Adam Silver, Peter Holt and the other representatives of the NBA owners.

Instead, they were working out Tuesday with Spurs rookies Kawhi Leonard and Cory Joseph in San Antonio.

Parker had a couple of pictures of the workout andon his website. The work can’t do anything but help their acclamation into the NBA.

While other NBA teams have conducted organized workouts, the Spurs haven’t taken that step. The main reason is because the team is scattered around the world and many of them have been taking part in international hoop pursuits over the past few weeks.

But Duncan and Parker showing Leonard and the Joseph the ropes was a strong sign of leadership. It should only help them once the lockout ends.

NBA lockout won’t keep Parker from playing

By Jeff McDonald
jmcdonald@express-news.net

Spurs point guard Tony Parker has made his lockout fallback plan official.

Should the NBA’s ongoing labor standoff postpone the start of the regular season, Parker has signed to play with ASVEL Villeurbanne, the French League team of which he is part owner.

Parker announced the decision, which had been telegraphed for weeks, Wednesday morning on his Twitter account.

In Parker the player, Parker the general manager got quite a steal. The three-time All-Star, slated to earn $12.5 million in the NBA this season, will play for $1,995 per month in France.

“I’ll be playing nearly for free,” Parker told the French daily L’Equipe. “If I play the entire season, we’ll go for the title.”

Whether the 29-year-old Parker actually appears in an ASVEL uniform at all largely will be determined at the collective bargaining table, where NBA owners and its players union face a Monday deadline to settle their dispute before regular-season games must be canceled or delayed.

If a new CBA is reached in time to save the start of the season, Parker will be obligated to remain in San Antonio for Spurs training camp.

Speaking at his basketball clinic in San Antonio over the weekend, Parker said he wanted to inform ASVEL of his intentions as swiftly as possible, with his decision based on the progress of the NBA labor negotiations.

“I don’t want the French team to play the beginning of the season, and then I come,” said Parker, who last month led France’s national team to the country’s first Olympic berth in 12 years. “That would not be fair to them.”

As the MVP of the 2007 NBA Finals, Parker is the most prominent NBA player to agree to a lockout deal abroad since July, when Deron Williams, New Jersey’s All-Star point guard, signed to play with the Turkish team Besiktas.

He’s the third player under contract with the Spurs to secure a lockout deal abroad, joining center DeJuan Blair (Russia) and guard Danny Green (Slovenia). Spurs guard Manu Ginobili has a similar offer to play in Italy, but has yet to agree to it.

In accordance with the NBA’s agreement with FIBA, the sport’s international governing body, Parker’s deal with ASVEL contains an out clause that would return him to the Spurs once the lockout ends.

As a member of the ASVEL ownership group, Parker — who carries an official title as the club’s vice president of basketball operations — will be responsible for insuring his own NBA contract against injury while playing abroad.

With the status of NBA negotiations in the eye of the beholder — creeping closer either to resolution or Armageddon — it is unclear when Parker would return to France.

Bargaining talks broke down Tuesday in New York with no deal in place, resulting in the scuttling of the remainder of the preseason schedule.

ASVEL — based in Villeurbanne, a city of about 140,000 in southeast France — opens its season Oct. 14. If NBA players still are locked out at that time, Parker expects to be in uniform.

Late last week, Parker left little doubt as to which option he preferred.

“I’d rather start (Spurs camp) right now,” he said.